Madeleine joined NINE dot ARTS' The Art of Placemaking podcast to discuss how art and architecture can create more inclusive places. In conversation with Martha Weidmann, she explored participatory design, collaboration across disciplines, and the value of involving communities from the earliest stages of a project, reflecting on Filling the Void, a Masters studio she led as Visiting Professor at Karlsruhe Institute of Technology that used public installations and performance to test ideas for the future of the high street.